![]() ![]() If you are after the vintage look, I'd say to just stick with the traditional which so many of us love. In summary, I would not recommend these tuners to anybody. Not really a big difference if your winding technique is solid. This is because there are less windings around the post that need to get pulled tight. Which kind of defeats the purpose of these things.Īs far as tuning stability goes, I do notice that the strings take a little less time to settle in. If you don't, it's not much different than winding strings onto a standard tuning post. I suppose if you have a string winder on hand it's not too bad. ![]() What this means is that you have to turn and turn and turn the tuner until it takes out all of the slack and tightens down. Using a flat head wouldn't really work to tighten them either because the string is passing through and would need to turn with each rotation. This is partly due to the fact you don't have a large thumbwheel to torque them tight yourself. The last gripe is that these are self locking tuners. Kind of like finding a lost contact lens. When taking off a low E string, just a couple of turns and - whadya know - the tuner top has came undone and is now floating around on the ground somewhere, probably fell through a crack on stage or underneath the couch. Then, the flathead part of the tuner just loves to come completely unscrewed and fall off when it is loosened. So this means that the quick string changes that locking tuners are lauded for are out the window. What this means is that when you are removing the string, you need a flathead screwdriver, or other makeshift tool. Rather, there is a flat head slot on top of the tuner. (Of course, it is this aesthetic that I was after, which I now realize led to a huge compromise in function). So here goes -įirst, there is no big thumb wheel to tighten and loosen the locking mechanism. I wanted to give some time before I gave a review. I trust that the sealed hex-bushing style Gotohs with this type of lock would be equally as effective.I wanted to try some locking tuners on a strat I have recently set up to float. I've found that i could re-string a half hour before going to a gig, and it worked out just fine. I actually fuse the ball-ends too, to hurry things along further. I've found them to be extremely effective at hurrying the 'bedding-in' of my fresh strings. I do a LOT of bending in my playing, so I give them a rigorous workout. It seems that my stretching method beds the string effectively enough. I personally *knock on wood* have never come upon the need to add extra locking by using a coin/similar in the tops of the posts to add extra tightness. These are all on Telecasters/Broadcasters, for the record. Currently 9 sets of these (8 sets of the slightly upscale SDS510 HAP-M, and one set of the regular SD91 HAP-M tuners - all are the A-e strings, as the low E strings on all of these are substituted with Bill Keith D-Tuner banjo tuning keys). I have a bunch of the vintage style versions of the Gotoh locking tuners in play, and have been using them since 2013. And that could be weeks ! So tighten them manually when restringing and they're good to go. Personally i found if i don't do that the tuning went out continually till the posts self turned over time to the point they were done moving. But tightening the posts manually will stop and continued slack from happening at the tuning post. So do stratch them as usual when putting new strings on because of the ball end. At that point they will be solid and not allow more tuning slack to continually happen aside of course from the other end in the bridge. But they are fine and hold tune well IF you do one thing.when you put new strings on tune up a bit then take a penny (pennies fit the top slot just right) and tighten the post good and tight manually by turning the slot clockwise. I found the tuning WORSE than regular vintage non locking sets. But they will not tighten fully and while the string will not come out, they will continue to tighten a tiny bit over time and causing tuning to go out. Yes, they will tighten as you tune up and lock the string from coming out. Lastly, heres a bit of info i learned after years of using these.do NOT rely on the self tightening aspect. They re great but the adjustable part can go bad much easier then the non HAP ones. They can be somewhat unreliable unless in recent years they fixed them. As to the gotohs they come in 2 varieties i am familiar with. Don't buy the fenders, they are super tight to turn and not smooth at all. Had and have many sets both gotoh and the fender licenced ones. ![]()
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